Q: My loving, Jewish mother is 92 and has turned into a rude, abusive foul-mouthed woman who I no longer recognize.
She’s in relatively good health and amazingly lives in the same house I grew up in. She has an aide during the day. She won’t leave the house,treats the aide poorly and last weekend cursed out my very patient spouse. We’ve been getting 5 calls a day such as ” I”m having a heart attack; no one will tell me whether recycling comes today”!
I know she has early signs of dementia. Her cardiologist tells me not to take it to heart and this is not the same women who raised me. She won’t go to the JCC adult programs, complains about being lonely at night, yet hangs up on me when I tell her we can get an aide at night or sell the home and let her live in a facility with women her age, etc. She threatens to call the Police if someone comes to her home at night. I have a POA but don’t want to rob her of her independence at 92. I try to tell her to speak nicely to the aides, myself, my spouse, but she says ” I don’t remember or I must have reacted to something someone did or said.”
I feel guilty as I’m not spending as much time with her as I would like, but it’s a matter of survival. Jewish guilt is thrown about with impunity and I can’t tell whether she’s being manipulative and obsessing over bullshit ( “oh my God the outside light may burn out tonight” ) or she really can’t control herself. Her aide is a lovely human being but my mom orders her around like a slave. Who is this woman? I’m torn, anguishing over what to do and am doing nothing but try to correct her inappropriate behavior and language. I wanted to take her to a geriatric psychiatrist but she refused to go. Medication to calm her down is dangerous per the MD as she could fall, etc.
What should I do? I’m at my wits end.
Dr. K’s answer:
Wow, difficult situation but unfortunately not uncommon.
You say your mother has early signs of dementia, and it is true that “personality changes” can be due to an underlying dementia, such as fronto-temporal dementia or Alzheimer’s, especially if a family notices other changes in memory or thinking abilities.
But it doesn’t sound like your mother’s been clinically evaluated for dementia, and you don’t say whether this has been brought up with her primary care doctor.
How to Get Memory & Thinking (or Personality Changes) Evaluated
To get help with this situation, I would recommend you find a way to get a least a preliminary medical assessment done for dementia.
If you are wondering what is the difference between dementia and Alzheimer’s disease, or want to know more about how they are diagnosed, I explain that in this video:
In principle, this can be done at a primary care provider’s (PCP’s) office, and it might be easier to arrange that visit than it is to get her to see a geriatric psychiatrist.
In practice, primary care doctors – and cardiologists, for that matter – routinely wave off dementia assessments in people your mother’s age, saying things like “it’s not necessary” “there’ll be nothing to do” “don’t make her upset” and “don’t take it personally, it’s the disease and not your fault.” (This last statement is generally true, but that doesn’t mean we should skip the assessment!) Also, many primary care doctors may not be quite sure just what to do, in order to complete a preliminary assessment.
Fortunately, you can improve your chances of getting a helpful assessment by familiarizing yourself with how dementia is diagnosed, and then coming prepared with good information regarding your mother’s abilities and challenges. For instance, you can make note of how your mother is doing regarding these 8 behaviors that may correspond with Alzheimer’s.
This article I wrote can also help: Cognitive Impairment in Aging: 10 Common Causes & 10 Things the Doctor Should Check.
You can also review this article about dementia diagnosis which I wrote for family caregivers. Do bear in mind that HIPAA does not prevent you from contacting her doctor ahead of time and relaying your concerns and your observations. I generally think it’s good to do this in writing, as it can be put in her chart.
You may, of course, be wondering why you should bother getting her checked for dementia, such as Alzheimer’s disease. You may also be worried that a diagnosis will distress or upset her. In truth, it might upset her in the short term. Still, in the long run, getting her assessed for dementia is likely to bring you both a lot of benefits.
The Many Benefits of Pursuing a Dementia Diagnosis
For your mother, an assessment for cognitive changes means she’ll be checked for other health problems that might cause personality or thinking changes. After all, it’s possible that the problems you’re observing are not due to dementia.
It’s also common for dementia to be exacerbated by additional problems – like electrolyte imbalances, medication side-effects, untreated pain, or even constipation — which can be treated, even though a disease such as Alzheimer’s can’t be cured. So you really want at least a preliminary clinical dementia evaluation to be completed.
If your mother ultimately is deemed to have dementia, you want that to be in her medical chart. That’s because this diagnosis has implications for how to manage the care of any other health problems she has. (For example, the doctors should not simply provide verbal instructions to her for her healthcare, as they usually do to patients. And they should do things like simplify her medications if possible.)
A dementia diagnosis will also make it easier for you to get help as a family caregiver. Difficult behaviors are often managed with medications, but it’s true that these generally increase fall risk, so they should be avoided. If you are concerned about her behavior, this article will explain the pros and cons of the available medication options: 5 Types of Medication Used to Treat Difficult Dementia Behaviors.
What is best is for family caregivers – and paid home caregivers – to learn better dementia behavior management techniques, and dementia caregiving coping strategies. I’m afraid it’s pointless to try to reason with her and “correct” her behavior, that just doesn’t work with people who are cognitively impaired. But there are other approaches that can help, most of which start off by accepting the impaired person’s reality.
Plus, learning better ways to handle your mother’s behaviors can have a big effect on her wellbeing, and on yours. For you, learning better approaches will help you with the stress, anxiety, and guilt. This will make it more feasible for you to be present for your mother when you can, and that in turn will improve her wellbeing (even though she may not often sound as appreciative as you’d like). A 2013 study actually found that dementia caregiver coping strategies were associated with slower dementia progression.
Last but not least, a dementia diagnosis often helps a family focus on planning for further declines in decision-making and independence. This is obviously not easy, but trust me, things tend to go better later if families have done some planning earlier.
In other words, there is a lot to learn and do if you are, in fact, the son of an older woman who is changing due to dementia. A preliminary diagnosis is an important medical first step, and will make it easier for you to get help coping, and get help learning skills to make the experience more manageable.
How to Get Help Coping with Dementia Symptoms
For help coping with the experience – whether it’s how to get your mom in to see the doctor, how to deal with the doctors, how to cope with your stress, how to manage her outbursts, how to plan ahead – I would recommend you try the following resources:
- Talk to a professional trained to help people struggling with aging parents, such as a geriatric care manager (now known as an aging life care professional) or a senior care adviser.
- Visit online support forums. There’s a quite active forum at AgingCare.com. The Alzheimer’s Association is another good source of support groups.
- Read a few good books, as it’s hard to learn a lot by skimming web pages. For dementia, the 36 Hour Day is well respected, and I like Surviving Alzheimer’s a lot too. Or consider a course offered by your local Alzheimer’s Association. Another option would be dementia management videos, such as those by Teepa Snow. Pick whatever method of education works best for your style of learning.
- Remember to take deep breaths, and to take care of yourself. Dementia or no, helping an aging parent is usually a long journey. Building some daily walking and daily mindfulness practice into your day can make a big difference.
Good luck! Do get that dementia assessment and then get help learning to deal with her behaviors. It’s an effort but it will pay off in the long run.
This article was first published in 2015, and was last updated by Dr. K in June 2022.
Very helpful article about a very tough circumstance.
Here is a list of 91 fully vetted resources dealing with Alzheimer’s and Dementia that are helpful – http://www.caregiverpartnership.com/resources/category/dementia-alzheimers/18/
I am forwarding this item to my 3 children. I just turned 80 and my children are just entering their 50s.
I’m glad you find it helpful. It’s often a great help to adult children when their parents are open to planning for the future.
So true, thank you!
Doctor K, thank you for the update in dealing with personality changes in aging folks. It would be helpful to see you address the issue of changes caused by medication and over medication. Anyone taking a sleep aid such as Temazepam or any of the benzodiazepine family is at risk for side effects that can mimic and lead to what seems to be dementia after long term use, or use past the recommended dosage time. These can be searched on google. It is important for family caregivers to study every single prescription an aging parent is taking. Some are not life support medications, but given to quiet restlessness. Some people are taking more than one of these. They not only can directly affect the brain and create what appears to be dementia in aging people; they can create the same effect on younger people. I speak from experience. A doctor over medicated me on a sleep aid from the benzodiazepine family (includes valium), which is a psychoactive drug. I am a full time working senior citizen in a busy profession. I was prescribed this medication for several years when two weeks is the maximum dosage. My personality changed. My daughter thought I was getting dementia. Fortunately I was entered into a safe withdrawal program and recovered to continue working. It is also important to recognize that if you find your parent taking a brain altering or influencing medication, you must see that they are withdrawn slowly, safely and professionally. Sad to say, some doctors do not have a clue about the side effects of what they prescribe, nor are they aware of how to safely have a patient withdrawn from a mind altering psychoactive drug. It does not have to be an opiate to become addicted. My doctor told me to just “stop” taking the Temazepam. He did not know that I could have had a seizure or stroke from doing so.
Thank you Glenda for sharing your story and for bringing up these important points! You are right, it is indeed common for older adults to be given benzodiazepine sedatives and other drugs that impair brain function, and such prescriptions are often inappropriate or aren’t tapered off correctly.
I’m so glad you were able to find your way off this medication and that you’ve had a good recovery.
I do address these issues in some other article on this site:
How You Can Help Someone Stop Ativan
4 Types of Brain-Slowing Medication to Avoid if You’re Worried About Memory
5 Types of Medication Used to Treat Difficult Dementia Behaviors
5 Top Causes of Sleep Problems in Seniors, & Proven Ways to Treat Insomnia
Please I am in desperate help. My mother is 89 and her anger is full on rage. Hitting, yelling, throwing things.. etc. this rage will last from the time she wakes up till bedtime. My father has a bad heart and can’t take it. In hopes to control this she was prescribed depakote 125 mg a day 3 x day. Today will be her 5th day on this Med and so far nothing has calmed her. She gets so angry at me and my dad that she will not eat. Now the dr has ordered that we take her to emergency and they will admit her to the psych ward to be medically stabilized. This frightens me. Her rage frightens me because I’m afraid she will have a stroke or my dad will have a heart attack. She screams at the tv like these people are in the house. My fear also is that my mom is Japanese and if she is hospitalized who will understand her? Please help me I love my mom so much and I know she must be scared. I fear her going in hospital that she may never come out.
So sorry to hear of your mother’s situation. I can see why you are so worried, and of course this must be difficult for her as well.
If she is really out of control and is endangering herself or others around her, then sometimes it is indeed necessary to hospitalize the person to stabilize them with medication. If there is a language barrier between her and the staff, it’s true that will make things more difficult. The hospital may be able to provide an interpreter but also if they will allow family to be present, it will help her to have someone familiar who speaks her language.
What is most important is that you are concerned for her, and if you can show up as much as possible to express that concern and care for her, that can really help. She sounds unwell, hopefully she will get treatment and be better soon. Remember that you can’t really control what happens, you can only control how you show up for her and try to support her during this difficult time. This is not easy, so find a caregiver support group if you can.
If she is older and there is a possibility of dementia or another form of cognitive impairment, I have an article on medications often used here:
5 Types of Medication Used to Treat Difficult Dementia Behaviors
good luck!
Good stuff and no one telks oatients or their families. Really, Ambien for a n 87 yr old parent for theclast 25 years?
Who monitors these prescribing docs. Absolutely no one.
It’s the nature of the professional. The careless way we treat our elderly.
Our cavalier attitude in this country, that everything can be fixed eith the right pill.
Not so.
It’s true that for a variety of reasons, health providers often tend to prescribe pills in response to problems and this is an approach that is especially unsuited to many aging health challenges. So it’s good for older adults and families to be prepared to ask questions and advocate a bit for other approaches.
I also think it’s important not to overly coddle people with dementia like they are a little child. Rudeness should not be tolerated from anyone. Not to say you yell at them but if they are being rude, tell them they are being rude and if they are doing something that can cause them harm or to fall, you have to be stern and stop them from continuing that behavior.
I have to respectfully disagree here. It is unfortunately true that people with dementia often behave in ways that seem “rude.” But if they really have dementia, it’s generally counter-productive to be stern and tell them they are being rude. They just can’t make sense of the feedback they way a non-demented person would. (And BTW, normal people generally respond poorly to being told they are “rude”; no one likes to feel embarrassed or criticized.)
What is more constructive is to try to create a positive and supportive emotional connection, and then work on a redirection of the behavior. Looking for underlying triggers is also important. We have an article describing how to do this here:
7 Steps to Managing Difficult Dementia Behaviors (Safely & Without Medications)
Places a fairly substantial burden on the adult offspring. I wish there were more attention paid to that and more resources devoted to it in this incredibly wealthy country (and yes, at this writing I’m fully aware who is sitting in the White House and Cabinet), as that person’s needs are systemically neglected beyond palliative phrases like “take some time for yourself” or “take a break” when a) they’re literally being abused, more often than not, and b) that’s substantially difficult most of the time and the time *required* in order to return to the most marginal state of equanimity exponentially exceeds the time *available* to do so.
I completely agree that this is a substantial burden to place on adult children, and agree that more societal resources should be devoted to helping families with these situations.
Unfortunately, although it’s incredibly common for people to encounter these problems, this has not so far turned into a motivated political force. People are oblivious to the issue until it hits them, then swamped dealing with the challenges, and then afterwards most have no interest in advocating for other family caregivers. (I imagine they are exhausted and sick of thinking about these things, which is understandable.)
I recommend following Howard Gleckman’s column on caring for aging parents for a great view into relevant policy. And then…advocate if you can!
Yes!! I’ve been emotionally and financially taking care of my 80 year old dementia mother for 15 years and could have another 15. She is verbally abusive and says I do nothing for her (she is bed ridden as she had polio as a child and while she can stand, she says she can’t do baths, eating and such are all Done in bed and by me and a daytime care giver). She has literally been sick since I was 10- so I know no other life. I tell myself it is the disease, I redirect, I walk away – I want to keep walking at this point.
It sounds like you’ve had a long experience of being a caregiver for your mom, and that her needs are very high. High levels of care partner strain can even lead to situations of abuse or neglect, or caregiver illness.
You sounds like you’ve developed some effective approaches, but it’s still hard. I hope you have some support and get some respite for yourself.
Dr. K has recently published a book called: “When Your Aging Parent Needs Help: a geriatrician’s step-by-step guide to memory loss, resistance, safety worries, and more”. It’s written for those who are starting on the caregiver journey but has great advice for caring at any stage. You can find out more here.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I applaud you for being proactive! I am a 49 yr old female caring for her 76 yr old father. It was I who turned to the web, desperate for a solution to his daily screaming fits. God Bless You
Fantastic response by Dr. K to an important, well-written letter that had me laughing and in tears both! Such a common experience for many families going through this journey…good luck to all and get that dementia assessment!
Linda Meneken PT
Thank you! Agree that the letter does a wonderful job at capturing the struggle and frustration that so many people experience.
As a caregiver for my 100 year old mother until her death, now a support group facilitator, dementia and caregiver educator and doing non-pharmacological and environmental home assessments, I agree with Dr. K. that is an unfortunate, but not uncommon situation. It is sometimes hard for us as children to step in and override decisions of our parents, even though we know that it would be best for all involved. These situations are why more than half of people with Alzheimer’s pass away without even being diagnosed – what a sad and unnecessarily difficult life both the patient and their caregiver (if they even have one) endure as a result. Dr. K’s articles were a big help to me when I was a caregiver and I continue to share her information with others as I find them well written for the layman who has limited time to read and research dementia issues.
Thank you! I’m so glad you’ve gone on to provide dementia education and support in your community. I’ve learned quite a lot from you and others who have written to me since I started this blog. Dementia is often a difficult journey for families but it’s nice that the Internet makes it easier for us to connect and learn from each other.
Your points are well taken with me, Robert Keene. Dad is has been widowed about 1 yr, 8 months. He is now 92. He was paranoid and now he has added delusional to it per my description to the psych I see. He is very verbally abusive to me. I don’t answer his phone calls and let them go to voice mail. He accuses me of and tells everyone that I’m going into the house and cleaning him out. He has called the police three times to file charges. Thanks to the Sheriff’s RUOK program I have them checking on him three times per week. At the third call, the Sheriff’s department called it into Adult Protective Services. I’ve asked the American Legion to reach out to him. That’s all I can do. Sheriff’s have suggested I don’t go to the house because of weapons. I have a brother who lives near but there is no communication with him. This is only a part of the story. He needs to be in assisted living at the least. I checked out some stuff, but decided that… he wants to die in that house, so be it. I was their caregiver, spokesman, billing clerk, chauffeur, etc. He’ll be one who passes undiagnosed. It’s heartbreaking.
Yes, it certainly is sad and heartbreaking when older adults become very paranoid and refuse the help they need. It sounds like you’ve called Adult Protective Services and did most of what you could do. I’m sorry your father isn’t able to appreciate your efforts.
I have learned a lot from the articles you provide, related resources, and feedback from others. My Mom has gotten very mean and easily angered. She has false memories that fuels her hatred of some family members, especially my Dad. I do not want to be this way as I age. Are there any studies as to why people get this way? Any behaviors in their earlier years that contribute to it? Thank you
I have two aging parents, one with dementia, one without. However my not-demented parent is very stressed and overwhelmed with the responsibilities of the current situation, so between the two of them, my hands are really full these days. I find solace with the usual – daily exercise, half hour a day in the sun, a focus on healthy diet and long nights’ sleep. I keep a watchful eye on my alcohol intake. I lean heavily on my loving and supportive husband, siblings and friends. I try to take the advice I give my mother “focus on what you can change, not on what you can’t.” It’s hard to do, but it helps me keep my balance. Every day is a new challenge and an opportunity to develop grace.
Yes, I often think of the “Serenity Prayer” when working with families.
“Let us have the serenity to accept what cannot be changed,
The courage to change what can be changed,
and the wisdom to know the one from the other.”
That last wisdom part is hard however, for families AND for doctors.
Your comment also brings up something very important, which is that many family caregivers are older adults caring for spouses. Studies have found these are the caregivers who tend to do the most weekly work. I’ve also noticed it can be hard for families to figure out how to help a caregiving parent, since the caregiving spouse often tries to avoid burdening others.
I am glad to know you making an effort to take care of yourself, and hope your non-demented parent is able to squeeze in some self-care as well. It’s wonderful that you’re able to offer some help and support to your parents at this time.
Gina your life could be mine at this moment. I need to start exercising to help control the frustration. It overwhelms me.
Nasty abusive elderly mothers are narcissistic by nature, nothing you will do right will ever be acceptable by them. The mental health from their formative years in childhood, is the reason they are so anguished in later life. When I speak with Indian or Asian or other cultures, they tell me that when a parent is elderly and needs care they themselves in the family take care of them. It may be well true your mother is very scared of being left with a strange helper (aid) in her home. Having care by ones’ own family is paramount and not to be left for strangers to help with, firstly you can’t trust them and secondly, you have no affirmative evidence if they do something and you must prove it to the Police. I feel that the elderly are left neglected in nursing homes, and I feel that listening to the news all the time that they are the most neglected members in our community and secondly comes children who are being abused in all forms as well. Narcissistic is a word people should look up it is an inherited trait and those brain symptoms that elderly people develop or suffer from is merely an acute mental illness which they have lived with all their entire life., so we should educate ourselves with mental illness in the youth and the elderly as I feel that this is systemic in the late life category of being angry, abusive, aggressive and so forth, who wants to get old, sick and lonely, no one, and I am right in saying that everyone wants to be youthful, fit and healthy, no one wants to be left to get sick alone at home or in a nursing home.
You raise some very good points in your comment. I agree that previous life experience and personality can influence an older adult’s behaviour and response to change later in life, and of course, there’s nothing we can do to change that.
You also describe the worries that many have about the care that a vulnerable older relative could get from a non-family member, such as in long-term care or an in-home care agency.
Thanks for sharing your experience and for taking the time to leave a comment!
CONTACT YOUR LOCAL AlZHEIMER’S ASSN CHAPTER FOR help. They run a series of classes which are offered at no cost which helps you to care for your loved one.Their website is also very helpful
Agree, local Alzheimer’s Association chapters are an excellent resource. Most caregiving resources are helpful for all kinds of dementia, and so I often tell families to still try Alz.org even if they’ve been diagnosed with a different dementia, or non-specific dementia.
All of these articles are extremely helpful. I’ve shared them with friends of mine in other states. I hope they are reading them and following this most important advice.
Thanks to all!
Neftali
Thank you for sharing with others, I appreciate it!
Glad to see I’m not alone. My mom has turned into a screaming mean person. She lives in my house for 15 years without paying us a thing, but makes so many demands and won’t follow simple requests re: smoking, etc. Her episodes are more frequent and meaner. She threatens to call the police on us! My poor husband! He has been so good to her but she aims for the Achilles
You are definitely not alone. 15 years is a long time; very good of you to do this and sorry your mother is not more appreciative.
If the situation is very difficult and stressful — which it sounds like — I would recommend you reach to local resources for more advice and support. Your local Area Agency on Aging can help you identify these. You need to make sure you take care of yourself and your marriage, and contacting others can help you identify ways to meet your own needs while providing your mother with reasonable assistance.
You should also be sure to let your mother’s doctor knows what is going on, esp if your mother seems to be changing or getting worse, as it’s important to identify any underlying medical issues that might be causing or worsening her behavior. Good luck!
Thank you so much for an insightful and information packed response!
I have recently become caregiver for my 51 year old brother who we believe has dementia.
I have learned so much in the last two months since realizing his need for care and his dementia. I have found that reading, support groups, training, any and all ways that I can learn more not only about his disease, but how I must relearn ways to communicate with him where he is now, not where he used to be, or how he should be. Once I understood that, along with the fact that each day brings new challenges, I am so much more understanding and compassionate.
It is working alongside professionals who are empathetic not only to the patient, but also the caregiver that I truly believe it takes a team to properly care for and love our patient, and one another.
Thank you for being so clear and concise as well as offering so many other information resources!! I’m reading through all of them and have already ordered a copy of the book.
Keep up the great work and the blog!!
Debbie
Thanks for this comment, I’m glad you find this site helpful, and wonderful that you are learning to communicate better with your brother. This will surely improve the relationship and quality of life for BOTH of you.
51 is very young for dementia in people who do not already have Down’s syndrome or another form of developmental delay. I hope your family has been able to get help from a specialized memory center, as I think they are especially helpful for people with early-onset dementia.
I’m with all of you, I have a brother who moved back to Michigan. Since he’s been here I have been his only person that drives him to the doctors , to the store goes for his medicine. He made me poa when he came here. I am on call when ever he needs me. He lost his balance an fell hitting his head and blamed me for it, but I was at a wedding when it happened. He is getting worse with his dementia. The other day he said he wants to change his will because I always trying to tell him what to do for his good and he doesn’t want me in his attorney office with him, on conclusion he wants to take away the poa from me. For a brother that has done every thing possible for him I feel discouraged, After all I have been doing for him.
Sounds like a difficult situation. Unfortunately, some people with dementia aren’t able to fully appreciate all that their family is doing for them.
If you haven’t already done so, I recommend contacting your local Alzheimer’s Association or a similar support group. It’s good to connect with other caregivers, and it’s also important to learn how to most constructively respond to your brother’s frustrations or accusations.
Good luck!
I have a very difficult situation, my father has Alzheimer’s and is in memory care. My oldest brother takes care of him as best he can, visiting him weekly and making sure his needs are met. I live 2000 miles away and can’t be there yo help. My dad can no longer hear or see and is angry at everyone. He was never what you would call a nice man all the time we were growing up and got much worse when my mother died (she was only 45 when she passed). He became violent with us and we all left as soon we got old enough. My oldest brother however promised my mother he would care for my dad and has done so for many years but it has become increasingly difficult. My father is fowl with my brother and staff at the home. I don’t know what to do to help him and my dad has driven off all other family members long ago. I want to help but don’t know how, any suggestions?
Sorry for your difficult situation. A few thoughts:
– Talk to your brother and ask him how you can help support HIM (your brother). It sounds like he has gone through a lot.
– You may or may not be able to do much to help your father at this point. Don’t hold yourself responsible for the outcome. Your job is to have a good intention and to make an effort. What that effort should look like, I can’t really say…your brother might have some suggestions.
– You might find the book “Coping with Your Difficult Older Parent” helpful, you can perhaps get it from your public library.
Good luck!
My mother is 82 and lives on her own. Her long term memory is just fine, but her short term seems to be fading. She will ask me the same questions within minutes and forget what day it is. If I am explaining something I have to tell her over and over because she gets confused. For the longest time if we are talking about an issue or something in the news she will argue and sometimes gets nasty with her opinions. To herself, shes always right even though she makes no sense or have reason. Is this just her getting older or signs of dementia?
It is normal for things to slow down in the brain a bit as people get older, but what you are describing sounds more significant. It’s not normal to ask the same question within minutes (repeatedly; once in a while would be ok) or to keep forgetting what day it is.
I would recommend further evaluation. These articles explain what should be done and looked for:
Cognitive Impairment in Aging: 10 Common Causes & 10 Things the Doctor Should Check
How We Diagnose Dementia: The Practical Basics to Know
Good luck!
That`s a very thoughtful answer. Thanks Leslie for sharing and the evaluation. Most of the people can relate to this situation. You are spot on. She should prevent further cognitive decline in her mother`s health instead of pushing her into home care support. In my opinion a face-to-face conversation with her mother may bring out better outcome and may control her anger issues. Her mother might be acting angry and feel disgusted in order to get her daughter`s attention and time I`d say. I like the article and love the “Serenity prayer” too.
Conversations with the mother are a good idea, but they are mainly useful as a way to better understand how the older mother is perceiving the situation. When we understand an older person’s reality, we can better learn to work with it. However it is almost never possible to convince an older person to be less angry or paranoid, especially when the underlying problem is cognitive decline.
Preventing further cognitive decline can be difficult. No medications or medical therapies have been proven to work well for this purpose. Probably the best approach is to minimize risky medications and prevent delirium; both of these have been associated with acceleration of cognitive decline. Other methods that promote brain health (e.g. exercise and social engagement) may also help prevent decline.
How to Promote Brain Health
Kudos Dr. K, as always. Our mild and moderate AD-type dementia patients and families (as well as some LBD and even a few FTD), are increasingly interested in local clinical trials. Our office is very high touch, we make house calls for established patients, the team answers every question and returns every phone message (some of our patients email, too). This rapport and continuity of care often widens the many options that might be dismissed as scary or inconvenient or offering no guarantee whatsoever. With a clinical trial inclusion, some complementary services are starting to show up as well, Psych, OT, SLP, LCSW. Hard to be 100% grumpy when so many kind folks are paying attention (LoL). = : )
That’s a good point: a local clinical trial is often a way that families can get extra support while dealing with Alzheimer’s or other dementias.
Wonderful that your office is able to provide so much help to your patients; I hope some day this will be more the rule than the exception.
Here is the best advice. Put your mother in either assisted living or a nursing home. In case she refuses to go you call the police who take her to the emergency room. Once there the doctor can have her sent to a nursing home. All her acting out will be handled by the nursing home.
Well, it is true that many people with dementia end up moving (or being moved) to some kind of residential facility. It may or may not be the best way to go, it really depends on the situation and what the available care alternatives are.
I would recommend using the police as a last resort…it’s often possible — and less traumatic — to get a reluctant person with dementia to move by using benign deceptions, such as inviting her to lunch at the facility and then introducing her to her new home. (Some families propose it as a temporary arrangement, or say that the usual home is in need of serious repairs.) And even then, families should only resort to deception after being quite sure there is no other way to address the situation, and also being sure that they have legal and ethical grounds for moving the older person against her will. Legal requirements vary state by state, so it’s best to consult with an elder law attorney before proceeding.
I have an article about decision-making capacity here:
Incompetence & Losing Capacity: Answers to 7 FAQs
What do i do if i am in critical medical condition, have a long standing arrangement with my parents for the past 2 years that they have repeatedly texted me, that they are paying for my life saving stem cell treatment, and within the last month they are completely denying that my hips are broken? I planned my life around this treatment ive been promised for almost 1.5 years, she says ok ill go get the money, then it never comes or she picks a fight with me, hangs up on me, then wont answer my calls for 2 weeks. Since its gone on so long,i cannot work, I have had to spend all my savings, and i have advanced lupus due to the torn/broken hips. I even drove over to tell her how urgent this is and she called the police on me. This is full on lupus with sun allergy. Im in san diego, its summer, and now when i go outside i throw up and get blurry vision. The emotional toll after being injured so long and my parents now fully denying i am sick is overwhelming. I have lost everything from her deception, now possibly my life. mThey lead me on this entire year so at this point it has developed to the point i can barely think or move. I feel like they are trying to kill me. I plead for friends to help me get through to them but they play it off and tell lies about me. its to much for anyone to understand. Im not able to heal, now i have to take them to court because i have no voice. with them. I couldhave paid for my own treatment but now ive had to go through my savings. Its a life or death situation now.
I show them the documents from MRI, Xray, Multiple diagnosis from 6 different doctors and nurses. Within this month its never enough. They are so paranoid that they think everything is a hoax. My father was always forceful and abusive but now he doesnt know whats what and hes getting more pushy and controlling to the point its dangerous. For instance when i went to visit last year he would physically move me. like grab my hand. my mother knows i have 2 broken hips but every once in awhile she would tell me to hurry up, while walking. This is so surreal…
Hm. It sounds like you are having some significant health concerns and want your parents’ help. But at the same time, they have become challenging with you, as you describe paranoia, not following through, and not listening to you.
Unfortunately, I don’t know that you can force your parents to help you. If they are older, there’s a possibility that there are real medical reasons for their behaviors and conflicts with you. Ideally, they would get evaluated to check for these. While they are in this state, they probably won’t be able to provide you with the amount of help you’re hoping for. It won’t work to argue or reason with them. I would recommend looking for other ways to get your needs met, and then later trying to help your parents, if possible and if it still seems relevant. good luck!
Excellent post. In Serbia I have a grandfather who suffers from dementia. We had to put him in a nursing home because he can not take care of himself. There is surrounded by people who properly care for her.
Yes, as dementia progresses, people eventually need someone to be taking care of them all day (and also usually available at night). Placement in a residential facility, such as nursing home, memory care unit, or even a smaller home, is one way to manage this situation.
Dear Leslie Kernisan, MD,
Thank you so much for your article!!! I have been studying about Dementia, since I visited my mother last December – January, 2018. She has changed!!! Your article is the most helpful one!!!
Sincerely,
Retired Teacher
You are so very welcome. I’m always delighted to hear that an article has helped someone.
Very helpful article, thank you. My 81-year-old widowed sister lives by herself and, while she’s always had severe emotional issues, aging has caused her to be downright rude. She lives alone and can still mow her lawn, is in good physical health, and does fine with self-care. However, I’d like to stop thinking I have to listen to the complaining, haranguing, and what seems to be lying (although I think that’s the dementia). She would never listen to me, hates all women, especially her sisters, and sometimes even her children, who are professional people in their 50s. I’ve been advised to cut off the relationship completely, for my own sanity. I’m taking this into consideration currently. Her children, who rarely see her, will have to decide. Thank you for this opportunity.
Glad you found this article helpful. Also glad you are thoughtful enough to be concerned about your sister.
She does sound quite difficult and if interacting with her feels too toxic, it’s certainly reasonable to set boundaries and limit your contact with her. With the right approach (and sometimes encouragement or coaching from others), it’s often possible to provide some support and caring without letting the other person drain or hurt you too much.
A good book on how to do this is Coping with Your Difficult Older Parent: A guide for stresed-out children. Although it is written for people like your sister’s children, you would probably get some good ideas from it as well.
If you think your sister has dementia and she lives alone, there’s a high chance that she’ll eventually be jeopardizing her safety and health. I have recently recorded a podcast interview on “self-neglect” which may be helpful to you, in terms of what to monitor and when to consider intervenening:
066 – Interview: Addressing Potential Self-Neglect in Older Adults.
Good luck!
We have taken mom neurologist. She passed clock drawing and initiall questions. Has had brain mri waiting results. Went today for psychological assessment. Told doctor upset we (3) suggested these assessments. Then after about an hour she took a break and told my sister and dr I’m leaving. She feels like we ganged up on her and are putting her through hell.
Sounds like your mother is angry with you, sorry to hear this. This is actually quite common, but doesn’t make it any easier for the family members who are involved. There is no easy answer. When you are feeling patient enough, keep reaching out to her and try to keep the tone of your exchanges empathetic and non-confrontational. Avoid arguing or trying to reason with her, that almost always makes older adults more frustrated and defensive.
Working through this type of situation often takes a long time…weeks or months or sometimes longer. There are lots of things you could try, too many for me to list here, some are listed in the later part of this article: 6 Causes of Paranoia in Aging & What to Do
I would recommend connecting with a community of people in similar situations if you haven’t already done so. The caregiver forum at AgingCare.com is quite active and many of them have been through this type of thing. They’ll be able to give you moral support and ideas.
Good luck!
This is so true.
I am still working at 64 – 30 hours a week. We have arranged caregivers for my mom, but she sends them away because she won’t spend the money! It is only $15/hour, or she changes the schedule at the last minute – repeatedly – and they become so frustrated that they quit. My husband also had double knee replacement surgery 1 month ago — and I told her I would be unavailable during that time — call my other siblings and my niece – but she actually called me while I was at the hospital 1 hour away to stop by on my way home (at 9 pm to take out her trash) – she had one bag of trash. It has become an obsession. Her house is a mess but she sends cleaning people home after an hour. If I take her somewhere socially, I cannot even have a conversation with anyone, however brief, because she constantly finds things for me to do — needs another drink, need more deserts, etc. – the list is endless. She repeats the save conversations endlessly, day after day. They are word for word. Won’t listen, forgets things constantly, refuses to believe her memory is failing and won’t wear her hearing aid. She is always right. Can barely get around with a walker, but insists she doesn’t need more help. She can barely make a meal. I am constantly running over with food and groceries, as is my sister. I am beginning to avoid her because it is so frustrating to be around her. I have become depressed and angry. She has always had a bit of a mean streak – extremely frugal – would not even help out with my prom dress when I was 17 — but took a trip to Spain just a few months later with her friends. Never there for me emotionally until I had children – then she could be the wonderful grandma! I wish I could move back to California, but we can’t afford it.
Wow, this does sound like a difficult situation.
If you haven’t done so already, I would suggest looking for an online community of people caring for aging parents. What you are describing is not uncommon. Most people find it helps to connect with others who can commiserate, encourage setting healthy boundaries, and offer practical suggestions on what to try next.
I would also recommend the book Coping With Your Difficult Older Parent, as it addresses setting reasonable limits with a difficult or demanding parent.
It’s good that you are trying to help your mom AND you need to find a way to take care of yourself while you do it. Good luck!
I was searching the web and found this site. I see that others are going through some of the same things I and experiencing with my 93 year old mother. This above posting sound just like my situation except for moving back to California. I still work 30 hours and when I come home, mother tells me how terrible I am, how I am rude, and how I am treating her just like other adult children. She says she did not know that I would turn out so horrible. Every day, she tells me I am going to hell and if my dad were alive, I would spark me! (I am 66!)
I am trying to be a Christian daughter and be kind and compassionate. But the daily, hourly, and minute reminders of how I have failed her is more than I can take. Most of the time I leave the room she is in in order not to confront the meanness. Then, she comes after me and tells me how I am treating her horribly. I am in trouble if I do anything and I am in trouble if I don’t. I have no help from my brother and sister-in-law, as they have lost their house and are living with us until they can get on their feet.
I pray every night for guidance and patience. But, I feel so guilty that I am not able to help my mother or even make any one in my family happy. I love my mother,but I can’t seem to get her to respond to me as another human being.
Can someone help?
Sorry to hear that your mother is treating you this way, it sounds very stressful and must also be heartbreaking in so many ways.
The main thing I would recommend to you is finding a support group, to get emotional support and also ideas on how to troubleshoot these situations. Many people have gone through similar challenges and will be happy to help you.
I also cover what can be done in these situations in my Helping Older Parents course, which is included in our Helping Older Parents Membership Community. Good luck and take care!
My mother has Alzimer . she dosnt belive that my older Sister skrunder Her Mother s money. My older Sister steels mother s money by bieing big House Big Cars . my Mother belives her also i gave the best of her life with my other sister who i love . those things Ona had bully me for along time . dhe never was a great Doughter tord my mother. Whrn Ona left tucson wgere was she uh. We had too take care our mother not her. Now our mother sticks up for Ona thrn us.
If you do think there’s the possibility of financial exploitation by a family member, this article might be useful:
Financial Exploitation in Aging: What to Know & What to Do
My Sister & I had to take care of our elderly alzimer mother when she was in & out of the hospital. My older Sister Ona was in Washington liveing there she never help 1. We had to make things comfertbul . My Sister had to work nights & days witch she was a very hard worker . Then my older Sister was doing. Any way we had too take care of mother more more very way more. Now our mother is taken advanage of us say we where not there for her. When we helped her . Well thats it my older Sister would bully me thrue mail all the time now she said she never did maken harder for me.
Sorry to hear of your situation. It is common for there to be very difficult histories and feelings when caregiving issues come up, either between adult children and their parents, or between siblings, or all the above. I would recommend joining an online support group for people caring for older parents. Many have had conflicts with their parents and/or siblings, so they’ll be able to provide you with ideas and support.
We recently had to decide to put Mom into a nursing home for 2 reasons:(and it was a very difficult decision) Osteoporosis(which has caused 3 major breaks in 5 years,) and moderate Dementia(forgetting what day it is, when to take your pills, . having problems with day to day tasks, denial and anger(she refused any help at her apartment which we were trying to give her to keep her home and safe) The day she went into the nursing home her leg had become numb. Mom had been in physical rehab for 3 months due to a fracture on her lower spine..She had only been home 4 weeks.
I came up to help care for her(post physical rehab)…She wouldn’t do the things to keep herself safe…While caring for her she would refuse to listen to me if I told her not to overdue with chores.
I said “-let me help since you just got out of the hospital.” but she wouldn’t listen…and would get angry.
Mom has been at the nursing home for a month(a really good place) close to where relatives can visit her.They love Mom and do lots of activities and have entertainment regularly.
The sad part for us -Mom refused to move closer to US.(we’re a 1000 miles away) because she is so stubborn.
Last evening she called me very upset because someone told Mom she was at the nursing home permanently . She blames ME(not my brother) for her being there and said she would disown me)
I did not argue with her but said I had to go. You can’t use logical explanations because she refuses to accept it due to the dementia…and to be honest she can really hurt you with words.
I try to let it go but it really hurts . We also had to put Mom on Medicaid because she did not have the financial means to have 24 hour care at home. Even then we couldn’t be assured she would be safe from falling. I’m just expressing my sadness and frustration because it hurts that we couldn’t be closer but she made those decisions very clear to us…
Thanks for sharing your story. It sounds like you’ve worked really hard to help her. I’m sorry she’s not able to be more appreciative. What you’re describing is fairly common in dementia, and even making a reasonable and necessary decision can feel very hard.
If you haven’t already done so, I would recommend connecting with a support group, to help you with difficult emotions that come up. We have a special expert-led group for people like you, you can learn more here: Better Health While Aging’s Helping Older Parents Membership Community. Good luck and take care!
I have been taking care of my mom for years, but had to move in with her this past December. She has major heart problems and also has cancer in her thyroid and lungs. They did a MRI of her brain and said that she has had a couple of small strokes and the beginning stages of dementia. They took away her driving privileges and that was the start of her anger. I cannot imagine how scared and angry that she must be, but she directs it all towards me. She hasn’t said a nice thing to or about me! It doesn’t stop, she’s called me every name in the book. That is just a small example of how relentlessly her hate for me has been. My sister, brother and dad are all deceased, so I don’t have any help! I’m not a well person myself and I have had to cancel my appointments so I can take care of her. Recently, she has been refusing to take her meds, won’t shower/bathe or even change clothes. Plus, she’s telling everyone that I’m stealing her blind and stealing her medications….I would never do anything against my mom. I love her with all of my heart, but I honestly don’t know how much more that I can take! Please help me!
Sounds like you have been through a lot and maybe you are (understandably) reaching an unsafe limit of stress. You probably need to renegotiate the caregiving situation so that it can be more sustainable. It’s wonderful that you have done so much for your mother but if your health or sanity are starting to feel at risk, it might be time to pull back a bit. You can still love her and actually be very helpful to her, without necessarily living with her or putting yourself in a position you have so much exposure to her unhappiness about her situation.
For help figuring out your options, consider:
– joining an in-person or online support group
– contacting a social worker (try your local Area Agency on Aging to see if they can help you find one. Some medical clinics also have them available.)
– contacting your local Alzheimer’s association
– contacting a geriatric care manager; they have experience coming up with other care plans
Always remember that sometimes it is ok — and even necessary — to choose yourself over your parent. You can’t keep helping her if you fall sick from the stress. You deserve to get what you need too, and it’s often possible to keep loving and helping a parent without doing quite as much. Good luck!
I read your article with the hope of finding ways of coping with my “mean” elderly mother. I certainly mean no offense, and I’m genuinely glad that people have found it to be helpful, but all I got out of it was: get a diagnosis (and the reason for doing so), read a book, go to an online support group , and remember not to be offended.
These are definitely good suggestions, but, even when I remember not to be offended and know that it’s the disease not her, it’s still so very, very difficult to cope. For people who aren’t living with their elderly parent, the situation is hard. For people, like me, who sold their house to move in with their elderly parent knowing they’d do better at home, it’s monumentally difficult.
The elderly woman in this article could be Mom. We’re not Jewish, but the use of guilt described here, the unrelenting demands and the all encompassing selfishness are the same. The difference is that I experience it in-person not over the phone, and I can’t just hang up.
Could you please write another article, but, this time, could you use concrete coping mechanisms to help?
Sorry for delayed reply, we had a technical glitch that kept me from seeing many of the pending comments for the past few weeks.
Thanks for your thoughtful and candid comment. Honestly, I think the best way for someone like you to get help with concrete coping mechanisms is to get ongoing support from a group. It can also be very helpful to get ongoing support from someone with expertise in coaching and supporting people in your position, such as a geriatric social worker or geriatric care manager. (Some private therapists are good at this too.)
I could write another article but I don’t think it would be as good as the better books out there. (And, I am spread extremely thin right now and so have limited time to write additional articles.)
For dealing with a “mean” or demanding older parent, I especially recommend “Coping with your difficult older parent” by Grace Lebow and Barbara Kane. It has great advice on setting some boundaries. I also interviewed Barbara Kane on this topic, which you can listen to here.
Because I believe people like you need ongoing support and guidance from people like me, this year I launched a Helping Older Parents membership program. It includes ongoing access not only to me, but to experienced geriatric care managers who are really good at offering our members concrete coping mechanisms, through our private online forum and also through live QA calls in which we coach members. You can learn more here: Helping Older Parents Membership Program.
Sorry, I can’t be more helpful through the free articles. I am in touch with MANY people in your situation and I know it is crazy stressful and difficult. I do think ongoing support can make a difference. I would recommend you at least try the free group at AgingCare.com; it’s quite active and they are very supportive of each other. Good luck and take care!
Hello doctor.
My father is about 85 year old and he is in good physical health. from last 10 days we noticed very unusual behavior. at night he gets up and says i am dying call all my children, somebody is coming to steal things from me. he started behaving so different that i can’t even imagine. at he pulls off his all cloths and sit hold some knife or stick and say some body is coming. when we went to Neurologist doctor suggested for MRI and in that the impression is as below
“Diffuse Confluent periventricular and sub cortical white matter T2/FLAIR Hyperintensities more marked in frontal & parietal lobes associated with diffuse chronic micro hemorrhages s/o chronic hypertensive encephalopahty + severe small vessel ischemic changes (Fazekas grade 3) + posterior reversible encephalopathy syndrome (PRESS)
Multiple chronic lacunar infarcts in bilateral centrum semiovale, thalami and ganglio capsular regions
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Kindly help me for understanding the cause and reason for his behavior and how can we cure this.
Thank you so so much for your time for replying this.
Sorry for delayed reply, we had a glitch in our system that we have just resolved.
I’m also sorry to hear of this change in your father’s condition. When an older person gets worse over a matter of hours or days, we always want to consider the possibility of delirium. You can learn more about that condition here: 10 Things to Know About Delirium.
Otherwise, I have information on those type of MRI findings here: Cerebral Small Vessel Disease: What to Know & What to Do.
To be helped, he first needs a comprehensive evaluation for cognitive impairment. Treatment would depend on what the evaluation uncovers. I explain what the evaluation should include here: Cognitive Impairment in Aging: 10 Common Causes & 10 Things the Doctor Should Check.
Good luck!
What can I do when my husband (an only child) refuses to accept his mother is showing signs of dementia? She has AFIB, and has experienced three strokes. She is in independent living (I think it needs to be assisted living) and insists she’s able to drive. She’s 89 and cannot remember a vast majority of things although she is crafty in covering up her memory loss.
Last week the police called my husband (we live 1000 miles from her) because she was downtown and couldn’t remember where she parked her car. She also could not give the police officer her name, address or even a contact person. They found his number by going through her purse.
I am at my wits end. She should have been prohibited from driving a year ago but everyone is afraid that Lil will throw a temper tantrum. She’s a princess who has clearly stated “no one is going to tell me what to do”.
Well, what should I do? My husband is worried yet thinks it will all iron itself out. You can tell that he non-confrontational because he kowtows to her at her every whim.
I am seriously worried that she’s either going to kill herself, kill someone else or drive off looking for her hometown (800 miles away) because she still thinks she’s living there. The police eventually found her car five city blocks away. When confronted that night she laughed it off that “she and the officer” couldn’t find her car.
Please give me advice. I am a nervous wreck. Thank you.
Oh wow, this does indeed sound super stressful. Well…your situation is difficult but unfortunately not uncommon. Your mother-in-law’s symptoms and issues are certainly very concerning, and sound like they could be dementia. What to do is harder.
If the issue is especially around getting your husband to accept that your family needs to intervene, I would recommend trying to hire a geriatric care manager (now known as Aging Life Care professionals) to help. Even if the GCM can’t meet your mother-in-law, he or she should be able to provide your husband with some coaching on why it’s necessary to do something and what can be tried.
We also now offer a special Helping Older Parents Membership program, which allows members to ask questions of me and of some very experienced geriatric care managers that I have recruited to the program. (Plus it includes my course, connecting with others in similar situations, etc). You can learn more here: Helping Older Parents Membership.
Last but not least: if you’re a nervous wreck, you could also consider joining a free online support group…there will be less expert support than in our membership, but you will still get some good advice and lots of emotional support. Good luck!
I would say she is a danger to others on the road. You can file an anonymous report with DMV that you believe she isn’t safe to drive . It might save someone’s life or even her own. Think how you will feel if she hurts or kills someone in an accident, especially a child. It isn’t about her, it’s about the sac of everybody else on the road.
This article and the responses are incredibly helpful. Our situation is that my sisters and I (and everyone else) has noticed that my mother cannot seem to retain new information. Always asking the same question, not remembering where she went or what she had for lunch, etc… We have made an appointment for her to see a neurologist and have had long, compassionate conversations with her on why we should be proactive and not ‘wait’ which is what she wants to do. After the conversations she seems somewhat ok with the idea, but then the next day we get mean texts and voicemails from her saying she refuses to go, threatening to not let us in the house, threatening to cut us out of her will (which of course we could care less about), telling us that we are the ones that should see a neurologist. We don’t want to force her to go (we do have a power of attorney) but we are just not sure what to do. Any suggestions?
Sigh. This situation is so common that I am actually working on a short practical ebook to address the options!
The short answer is that what you describe is concerning and ideally she should be medically evaluated. If you think she’s impaired, it’s considered ethically justifiable to do some fibbing to get her to cooperate. Don’t spend too much time on explanations, they tend not to work. What is more helpful is validating her feelings and also framing the visit as something relevant to her own goals or priorities (such as continuing to live at home).
If you are really feeling stuck, a good geriatric care manager (also known as an aging life care professional) will know lots of tips and strategies that can be used to get a reluctant older person evaluated.
It does usually take a lot of work and finagling to get the person in for that eval. And even after that, she will often resist the changes you try to implement to compensate for her changing mental state. So the medical eval is needed, but the challenges will go on after that!
We do have a Helping Older Parents membership to help people navigate this in an ongoing fashion, and we have geriatric care managers (and me) answering questions in more detail. You can learn more here.
Good luck!
yah coddle them some more till your own sanity goes and you become room mates in the same psych ward
Well, I understand that it can be very frustrating to be in a situation with a parent who is having a change in behaviour, but I would reiterate Dr. Kernisan’s suggestions in her answer to a similar comment. It is usually more helpful to make an emotional connection rather than trying a “tough love” approach.
I would be very careful with this situation. There are many unethical lawyers out there who will take advantage of your mother. They easily convince elderly parents with dementia that the children are just after the assets or money. Then the lawyer takes control and empties the bank account and isolates the elderly person and files a law suit against you for elder abuse. You then end up spending money trying to defend yourself from false allegations. All the while, your mother controlled be isolated and loses all connections with the family. It happens a lot and lawyers are making a fortune either filing suits full of false allegations or helping the children accused to defend against them. It happened to us and to others. Very ugly.
I’m sorry to hear that you’ve had this experience and I think Dr Kernisan’s advice about getting a medical evaluation would be especially important if allegations of abuse and lawsuits are involved. A dementia diagnosis doesn’t automatically mean that a person can’t hire and direct a lawyer, but I would hope that it would be helpful in a court case that was trying to protect the person’s assets or was making a serious charge of abuse.
how can a person that cannot distinguish day from night … believe there being held hostage by loving caring family…”direct a lawyer”… and cannot remember they told someone the same thing or asked the same question repetitively through out the day and all through the night…. Im confused now…….
Thanks for the opportunity to clarify.
Just because a person has a dementia diagnosis doesn’t automatically mean they are completely incapable. Dementia involves a spectrum of symptoms – beginning in a mild stage and can progress to a more advanced one, where there could be much more cognitive difficulty and limitations.
The symptoms you’re describing sound like the person would be in a more severe stage of dementia, and might not be capable of making legal decisions, but that has to be assessed on an individual basis, and not just because of a specific diagnosis.
I have a loved one who is 94… reads the paper everyday can cook, however when she cooks she leaves the stove on the water running after washing dishes remembers events of 50 yrs ago but cannot remember to take her medicine believes adamantly she has lived within carehome only a few weeks in reality 3 years… if someone mentions that it triggers and she goes off with anger… along with the same questions frequently not knowing day from night, remembers not going to the beauty shop every Friday.
After eating… from within an hour or 2 she is forgotten her meal and says she has not had anything to eat …this is throughout the day and night and she does not sleep at night and is not aware of time and request food and coffee etc.. things from the store… at face one would be impressed with her … but after few hours especially in the evening… it would be neglect for someone to say let her go home when she gets the urge …. she wants to live by herself at her own home… because she is capable of deciding that’s where she wants to live… she can do a lot and make decisions…. but living by herself is a wrong poor decision… “Doctor said cannot live alone” this is why I question how can one make critical decisions when there reality is distorted… she is not capable of making safe and logical decisions upon critical matters.. but she will hold on to the banisters when using steps…
Thanks again for your detailed story (which I had to edit a little due to its length). The behaviours that you describe could well be in keeping with an advanced dementia with significant short-term memory difficulties. It can be frustrating that a person with dementia seems to use excellent judgement in some cases (like holding on to a bannister) but not in others(like deciding about where to live).
People with Alzheimer’s disease will often overestimate their ability to manage their day to day lives and for that reason, decisions about where to live usually have to include a capacity assessment, and a substitute decision maker with power of attorney may need to step in.
Appreciate your replies… she is one who is fighting extremely hard to hold on to indendence, apologies for the lengthy details… in short… that point which you removed, when believes she being poisoned when they give her food “added detail”or her loved ones in her mind have overtaken her life and deemed enemies … again the long list of the deterioration of her mental state and behaviors make critical decisions that would harm herself physically and financially … “ courts in session “ next case … hold on judge she is being picked up from the memory care center for dementia patients… she will be right in…. while her lawyer and new friends informs she is having a brief moment of clarity to appear in this hearing… but no worries she will not remember any of this when she leaves…. I just cannot relate to the idea of this being “ capable of critical decision” ability… But Im old fashioned and not a lawyer… again,thanks for replies… you’ve been great..
And I must say the line you wrote “often overestimate there abilities to manage” says in six words what I struggled to express with a sea of words…. well said,
I’m really glad that you found the responses helpful, Ben and wish you the best!
I’m 38, been disabled since I was in my early 20’s. Trying to work full-time. I take care of my father who has lung and brain cancer. My mother is in her early 60’s and makes stuff up and believes it. She thinks I am always causing her stress and mistreating her. For years people believed her until this week. This week he had brain surgery. That was on Thursday, this is Saturday and he is 70 years old. We have had him home for about 2 hours and she is creating drama and yelling at him. My brother and I keep trying to help, but she flips out nonstop over everything. She takes things out of context, interrupts and just screams. I live with them to try helping out and provide financial help to them. I told my brother tonight I cannot take it any longer and that I will be moving. I do not know if she has early alzheimers or dementia, but I feel she needs serious mental help. She is bitter at the world. One thing goes wrong in her life and it ultimately is my fault. The abuse has gone on for 12 years like this. I wished I had some control to get her checked out by doctors, but I have no power to do so. My dad keeps putting it up. He could have died this week and I tried playing referee saying hey everyone needs to calm down. Keep in mind, my father is two days removed from having a tumor removed from his brain and he’s already arguing with my mother. I feel powerless. Guess what started the argument? My mom was upset we were low on gallon jugs of water. Guess how many gallons of water we have in the house? 16 total gallons of water plus 9 – 24 packs of water. My neurological conditions are starting to suffer due to the stress of the mistreatment. I don’t feel comfortable leaving my dad alone with her. She’s now stomping through the house throwing a fit stating I don’t show her any patience. My brother apologized to me before he left for not believing me years ago. One more night going to bed in tears tired of giving up my life to help them. My dad is such a nice guy, I love him more than anything. He thanked me tonight probably 50 times or more for all I did this week. My mom, still on her tirade about how awful I am.
I’m so sorry to hear about your dad’s illness and what sounds like a really tough family situation for you. Personality issues can be exacerbated when a person’s partner is ill or needs caregiving and it can lead to anger and lashing out. If your mom is actually having false beliefs, this article might be helpful: https://betterhealthwhileaging.net/6-causes-paranoia-in-aging/
There’s a lot going on in your story, and in situations like this, often the only person whose behaviour you can change is your own. I encourage all caregivers to make sure they see their own medical professionals and advocate for what they need to look after their own health. You’re entitled to do that.
Dr. Kernisan is launching a new book about helping older parents that I think would be helpful to you and you can find out more about it here: https://betterhealthwhileaging.net/education-and-support/when-your-aging-parent-needs-help/
I also have a website, http://www.TheWrinkle.ca which has a lot of info about aging and caregiving.
Best of luck and thanks for reading the article.
Interesting comments here. My Dad passed recently as in a couple of months ago. He was well into his 80s. Even as He got older with health issues he was manageable until he got hit with kidney stones and had to be hospitalized. Well the guy that came out was different than the guy who went in. His mild dementia suddenly became strong moderate level. Suddenly He needed me all the time for the bathroom, kept saying he could not breathe a lot and slept incredibly poorly.
He was hospitalized about 5 times over the next 5 months. Now He did have conditions including diabetes, heart, cll and mild dementia. But again it was manageable from my standpoint until he went into the hospital. He caught an infection there, too. It was like everything just jumped in a negative way. Some tell me the antibiotics are often a culprit in putting old people over the top shall we say.
Managing at home for 5 months became incredibly hard. Waking up 15 times per night with breathing and bathroom issues made sleep basically an afterthought for both of us. His eating started to slack off. His dementia suddenly affected His speech and the forgetfulness became dramatic.
Doctors at another hospital said His Cll was driving the issue. My Dad had an oncologist but he held off doing anything for fear it would affect my Dad’s heart until basically the end where He was put on some anti Cancer pills.
It all got too much. My Dad kept falling too. I was getting virtually no sleep wearing out. More hospital stays happened until His heart gave out and He was put in Comfort Care until His last breath.
I must say I know mid 80s is old- especially for a man, but it was like everything went belly up after that first hospital stay.
The following months would be quite bad and I simply could not keep up due to pure exhaustion. It changes a person. We are only human and humans need rest. All that was taken away seemingly after an infection or by too much antibiotics? It all led to a rapid decline.
But at those ages and with conditions older folks are sensitive. Look at what covid has done to old people. Ironically my Dad caught Covid in the hospital but overcame it quickly.
This life is pain mixed in with good times. It’s why it is important to have a lasting faith in a Creator higher than you. I pray and know You are doing well, Daddy. You were and are the Best. Forgive me for not keeping up at times. Being a caregiver is utterly exhausting and shocking when you go from a mild caregiver to maximum caregiver in a very short time. It aged me and shocked me.
Hi Bill, and thanks for sharing your heart wrenching story. I’m so sorry to hear about your dad’s suffering and it’s natural to feel as though you could have done more. I’m sure you did everything you possibly could.
Your description of an older person being irrevocably changed after a hospital stay is all too familiar, and unfortunately the stress of being ill and hospitalized is often the start of a period of decline. It happens in people who are living with frailty – a condition related to age and other illnesses that can be managed fairly well most of the time, but makes it hard to withstand an “insult” like an infection or surgery.
Wishing you more of the good times and healing in the months to come.
I’ve read versions of this:
Tips for communicating with someone with Alzheimer’s or dementia:
Never argue, instead agree.
Never reason, instead divert.
Never shame, instead distract.
Never lecture, instead reassure.
Never say “remember,” instead reminisce.
Never say “I told you,” instead repeat/regroup.
Never say “You can’t,” instead do what they can.
Never command/demand, instead ask/model.
Never condescend, instead encourage.
Never force, instead reinforce.
Thank you for sharing those excellent tips!
Just something to think about. Do not hesitate to put cameras in the home when hiring caregivers. We had (visible, so everyone knew they were there) cameras in our 93 yr old Mothers home. Most of the caregivers the agency sent were kind and truthful, however, a few had to be fired immediately. Without the cameras we would not have known that they were nice to us but mean to Mom. Elder abuse to varying degrees, especially towards those with dementia, is much more common that we’d hope.
May I also suggest checking for a UTI? That can cause sudden aggression (not to mention confusion and other symptoms) in the elderly.
Great suggestion!
Dr. K has a wonderful article about sorting out the pitfalls of UTI diagnosis in older adults.